Sometimes the hypocrisy just drips off of members of Congress in a way that makes you want to grab a torch and pitchfork, doesn’t it? Get a load of this. A “bipartisan” group of US Senators has written a pair of bills to amend the Electoral Count Act of 1887.
They don’t like the fact that Mike Pence’s refusal to stop the certification was the only thing that kept Donald Trump out of power after the 2020 election, so they want to rewrite a law that’s 135 years old.
And the irony of this is that one of the bills takes a power away from the office of the vice presidency that Senators claimed the vice president never had anyway. Apparently, they now believe that Mike Pence did in fact have the power to reject electoral votes from swing states that had pervasive fraud.
The Hayes-Tilden presidential race in 1876 was a hot mess. The electoral college votes from four states were unresolved, which resulted in neither presidential candidate having enough votes to be declared the winner. Those four states sent dueling electors from each party. Congress ended up forming a special committee that included 5 Representatives, 5 Senators and 5 Supreme Court Justices to decide the election.
The Electoral Count Act was written and passed so that hot mess would never happen again. The vice president is given discretion under that act to reject slates of electors when fraud is suspected in a state. That’s what January 6th was all about. Under the plan that President Trump’s legal team came up with, Pence was supposed to reject the slates of electors from Arizona, Georgia, Pennsylvania, Michigan and Wisconsin.
Neither candidate would have had a clear majority of electoral college votes, and those five states would have been forced to hold do-over elections that didn’t have screwed up results. It was a perfectly legal plan, and it would have worked, if Mike Pence wasn’t a sniveling, backstabbing coward who betrayed President Trump and America for a multimillion-dollar payday from George Soros.
Many Senators, including Mitch McConnell, claimed that the vice president had no such power under the Electoral Count Act. Remember that and set that thought aside for a moment.
Mike Pence, you may remember, went out of his way to find a countervailing legal opinion on President Trump’s plan. Pence’s lawyer found a retired judge in Colorado who tweeted a hastily-cobbled-together legal theory that the Electoral Count Act didn’t give the vice president any power to reject electors. This wasn’t any sort of official legal opinion. The retired judge TWEETED his opinion, and Mike Pence used that tweet to justify his cowardice.
That all happened and we’ve covered that ground here extensively in the past.
One of the new bills that the “bipartisan” Senators are pushing would amend the Electoral Count Act, so that the vice president has no authority to reject slates of electors. Hey, wait a second! Didn’t Mitch McConnell and Mike Pence and the entire mainstream media claim that a vice president didn’t have that power? Why are they trying to take that power away from the vice presidency if Mike Pence didn’t have that power in the first place?
The reason is simple, and it’s a reason that we’ve been using a lot since 2016: Donald Trump was right all along.
Trump is furious about these bills, and rightly so. Here’s how he responded:
“So the Democrats, RINOS, and almost ALL others said that Mike Pence, or any V.P., had absolutely no right to do anything but send the ‘Votes’ to the Old Broken Crow, Mitch McConnell, even if they were fraudulent, corrupt, or highly irregular. The V.P. was merely a ‘human conveyor belt’ and could do nothing. BUT NOW, the DEMS & RINOS are working to pass a Bill that stops the V.P. from doing what he was not allowed, according to them, to do. It was all a ‘Big Lie.’ Should have sent back to States!”
Pence wasn’t allowed to reject slates of fraudulent electors. That was the narrative in January of 2020. And to prove it, they’re now hoping to pass a law in 2022 that prohibits all future vice presidents from rejecting slates of electors! Sometimes the hypocrisy is so thick, you could cut it with a knife.
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“…if Mike Pence wasn’t a sniveling, backstabbing coward who betrayed President Trump and America for a multimillion-dollar payday from George Soros.”
Is this VERIFIABLE? The Left doesn’t care about Mike Pence…WHY hasn’t THIS been pursued, tried, convicted?
I hate to say that NOW it doesn’t matter…because they will ensure that the VP Never has this power, because they now can see he COULD Have Done It.
Yeah the dirty Commie Democrats are caught lying again! At least now all the RINOs have tipped their hand, and shown they could care less about America or the Constitution. So “We the People”, have but one thing left to do! Vote every damned one them out of Congress come November, or our Freedom and our Republic will be done ! FJB !
The Vice president had no authority to refuse electors. The new legislation simply clarifies that. It would not have been necessary had Trump not misinterpreted.
It seems to me that the Electoral Count Act of 1876 was adopted to prevent what happened in the 2020 election to keep from happening. It would appear Pence did have the power just didn’t know he did. This Act should not be changed or tampered with. Any fool who thinks our elections can’t be tampered with or change better wake up. Today with voting machines that can be altered, ballot
harvesting voting by mail and people like George Soros with deep pockets full of money makes for a large volume of fraud. Wisconsin one of several States the statement there was no widespread fraud did not eliminate fraud altogether. If the states of Georgia, Arizona, Pennsylvania, New Jersy, and a few others made the same claim. Trump and the Jan 6th protesters had the Constitutional right to call for Pence to challenge the vote. Other countries use a vote of No confidence when they’re not satisfied with Government leaders. I believe history will prove Trump right and the Democrats bear the BIG LIE instead of investigating Jan 6th they should be investigating just how much fraud there was in each of the swing states and was it collectively enough to change the election. Ask yourself why these states are suddenly making changes in their voting laws if it was such a secure election, we need answers on election integrity. The Jan 6th protest will go down in History along with the Boston Tea Party, but we elect a President every four years and whether you love him or hate him the way he is elected should be honest, and fair voters are entitled to secure elections. Quit wasting money on a get Trump investigation that is one sided and get to the real cause of the riot fraud in the election.
Richard McArthur – It is people who think the way you do that has made our country into a corrupt, evil mess. Because Pence didn’t use his authority, we now have a demented corrupt, evil moron in our White House destroying America BY DESIGN. I do hope you and yours are enjoying the destruction because the rest of us rational minded people ARE NOT.
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Why trump was talked into having a rally in DC at the time of the certification of the electoral votes is beyond me. This triggered the Pelosi regime to plan a fake riot to stop the Republic Senators such as Ted Cruise, and others from not challenging the certified electoral college votes. This Jan 6 committee is a joke. Everyone on this committee is wicked and very dishonest!
You are SO full of BS. WAKE UP!
Pence thought money was more important. You see if you would have watched the daddy Bush funeral you would have seen the envelopes given to the Pense’s also along with the Biden’s, Obama’s, Bush’s and Clinton’s that day yet President Trump didn’t get one, why? The look on their faces was pure fright. You would have noticed President Trump sat right in front of Pence yet never acknowledged him. The note read “They know everything” Daddy Bush. I did my research on a lot of things that went on until they removed them from internet. So tell me can someone anyone how many people are on the democrats payroll? Now Pence wants to be President so he can get back with democrats and rhinos who are also bought off and do who knows what to our country. I don’t trust him as far as I can throw him.
Why are they making a bill over VP if he never had authority. They played ever dirty trick in the book on President Trump and his supporters for what reason? Maybe because President Trump had learned the truth and they know he knows, so humiliate him or get rid of him. But the later would point right to them. Besides didn’t anyone notice the little buddy show on that day between Pelosi and Pence. If I seen all this why haven’t others.
If the vice president did not have this power then there would be no need to pass a bill that clarified.it. it would be clear already. Pence just didn’t have the courage to send them to pick 1 set of electors.
I remember researching as certification time approached, and found definite rules that stated what to do. The VP DOES NOT NEED TO CERTIFY THE VOTE IF FRAUD WAS A POSSIBILITY. The votes needed to be recounted without possibility of fraud present during recount. If recount changes outcome, then 2 choices happen. If it brings the totals to switch enough votes AWAY FROM the “victor” and TO THE OPPONENT AS TO NO LONGER REACH THE TOTAL ELECTORAL VOTES NEEDED, THEN A REVOTE IS REQUIRED. But if the recount flips enough votes to the “loser”, THEN THE LOSER IS DECLARED THE LEGIT WINNER.
ALL PENCE HAD TO DO was NOT CERTIFY the states in question, as was legally stipulated. The CHAIRMAN of the Jan6 Committee himself , PLUS committee member RASKIN BOTH had previously asked for votes NOT TO BE CERTIFIED so there was time for checking for fraud, incorrectness.
Pence should have himself, or his staff, made the effort to find out there WAS A RULE that allowed him to delay certification. Look at the difference for America that they were too timid or lazy to find it and stand tall for truth and legality. That’s all Trump and supporters wanted, still want. America is under assault and threatened with COLLAPSE because it was avoided. And countries around the world have been affected, too.
To Pat.
Are you referring to the fist bump between Pelosi and Pence? I saw it with my own eyes. I always sensed there was something not quite right about our vice-president. When a mix of Republicans (including Trump) were congregated with a mix of democrats, Pence always seemed to gravitate toward the latter. Almost like he was uncomfortable in the presence of the former. When I saw the fist bump between him and Pelosi I understood the reason for his fraternization with the other party. I believe he had already sold us out and had begun to feel uneasy in close contact with the Republicans whose side he was supposed to be on. We always knew the democrats would do ANYTHING to bring down our President, including turning our vice-president. And in order to assure themselves of a 2020 victory I believe there was more than money included in the kitty. I believe they offered Pence a guarantee of a win in the 2024 presidential election. With the best election fraud team in our history I think they (and he) knew that they could make it happen so he accepted their deal and sold out not only our President but all of our citizens. Between the fist bump, the challenge coin, and how quickly Pence ramped up his own campaign for the 2024 presidential election, I believe our former ‘vice’ is one of the most black-hearted so called christians to ever darken the halls of our capital building. I hope God provides his just reward.
Pence is a cowardly cockroach. He was paid off so Pelosi could stay speaker. Face facts, there was no way a senile old pedo hiding in his basement could get 81 million votes without fraudulent votes. If Pence thinks he could win the GOP nomination without cheating he is a self deluded fool. No conservative in the whole USA will vote for him. Biden is giving the illegal invaders IDs at the border so you better make sure they are citizens before they are allowed to vote. Here in Florida you had to prove your citizenship before you got an ID. We are least can keep the fraudulent votes to a minimum.